Echoes 1.03

[thevictor390]

Found this game in search of a Geometry Wars-like experience, which I never had since I don't own an Xbox.  Very impressed with the quality for a freeware game, little touches like multiple profiles and an achievements equivalent (although most are impossibly difficult) set this apart from most independent games.  Currently downloading your other titles! I'm just disappointed that Duotris mobile won't work on my smartphone (according to the website anyway, I may try the demo just to see what happens).

PS joystick dead zone support would be awesome

[fog]

Hi thevictor390 and thanks for the comments

PS joystick dead zone support would be awesome

There is it's just some idiot forgot to mention it in the help files (that'll be me then).

In the "data" directory open the "my_joypad.zoo" file in notepad and you'll see the deadzone value at the end.  Decrease for less deadzone and increase for a bigger deadzone.  (it's the % of travel that will be ignored)

[thevictor390]

Thanks my PS2 pad drifts a bit, now can go for 175K without moving!

EDIT: OK, my joypad drifts a lot.  Apparently more than 15%.

[fog]

Thanks my PS2 pad drifts a bit, now can go for 175K without moving!

EDIT: OK, my joypad drifts a lot.  Apparently more than 15%.

Yeah don't be too surprised at that.  All my pads including the excellent XBox360 one drift occasionally if the deadzone is set at 10%....that's why I made the default 15%.  Even then my Thrustmaster one has a habit of wandering in the x-axis.

Bump it up to 20% and see if that helps.  I wouldn't put it any higher than is absolutely necessary mind otherwise the controls will start to feel unresponsive.

[las6]

Yeah don't be too surprised at that.  All my pads including the excellent XBox360 one drift occasionally if the deadzone is set at 10%....that's why I made the default 15%.  Even then my Thrustmaster one has a habit of wandering in the x-axis.

but is it automatically a bad thing? I think it adds a tiny bit of random element and the feeling of fluidity to the controls. I mean, the drift will be rather minimal when talking about the full range of movement, right? So if you scale your movement properly, it shouldn't be an issue.

I dunno, I might be the only one thinking this way, but I've seen far more games with huge deadzones than games with too small deadzone for the sticks. Might as well use the the digital buttons at that point.

[fog]

Yeah don't be too surprised at that.  All my pads including the excellent XBox360 one drift occasionally if the deadzone is set at 10%....that's why I made the default 15%.  Even then my Thrustmaster one has a habit of wandering in the x-axis.

but is it automatically a bad thing? I think it adds a tiny bit of random element and the feeling of fluidity to the controls. I mean, the drift will be rather minimal when talking about the full range of movement, right? So if you scale your movement properly, it shouldn't be an issue.

I dunno, I might be the only one thinking this way, but I've seen far more games with huge deadzones than games with too small deadzone for the sticks. Might as well use the the digital buttons at that point.

I'm with you.  I'd prefer a little drift to a huge deadzone   but it does make getting the "175k without moving" tricky as mentioned earlier.

[jbrodack]

could someone pm me how to get to play crack?

[germangamer232]

u do not get plya crack u do not evan get play ekoes game is brokan

y gam borkan??

[Lyx]

And thats why i play indiegames...

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And thats why i play indiegames...

lol

Welcome jbrodack, you'll be wanting this...
http://www.binaryzoo.com/forum/index.php?topic=993.msg13481#msg13481

Hi germangamer232, sorry I can't help without some more details and your system specs

[jbrodack]

crack is addicting.

echoes is a classic shmup experience.  love the progression of difficulty and intensity. 

[TheKhakinator]

bt u do not get plya cracks u do not evan get play ekoes game is borkan!

[fog]

crack is addicting.

echoes is a classic shmup experience.  love the progression of difficulty and intensity. 

Thanks jbrodack.  Glad you enjoy them

bt u do not get plya cracks u do not evan get play ekoes game is borkan!

He was German.  What's your excuse for constantly talking rubbish?   Too many tumbles off the Modernator?

[TheKhakinator]

Only crashed her once and it wasn't bad. Sadly the thing hasn't run in months. The new design is rather much better, mechanically, but I have no batteries or money for batteries.

[todayisforgotten]

Firstly, I understand this game has been around for awhile on the PC and that you do have other things going in your life and programming world.  I also highly doubt you'll bother with compatibility with w7 but here we go anyhow...  Couple of questions:  Will there ever be w7 64bit support for echoes on the PC?  The game will run in Windows 7 but then shortly after it will crash and the error is a bad command at line xxxx.

For XP I have installed the 360 controller drivers (this does work flawless in w7).  The issue in echoes on XP is it comes up as unsupported in the main game menu (red text).  When you click on controller setup in echoes it is then recognized, but when you go back to the main menu it is not.  XP recognizes the 360 controller in device manager and controller setup as a 360 controller.  When in echoes o call it.

I don't know if such an issue(s) exists and perhaps i should read through this thread which I will...